Episode 8 — Burnout: The "I'll Do It" Trap

Episode 8 — Burnout: The “I’ll Do It” Trap
Tanya & Lisa - 2-Together

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Burnout: The “I’ll Do It” Trap - The Self-Sacrifice Pattern and How to Break It

Lisa and Tanya, two psychologist friends, continue their burnout series by exploring the “self-sacrifice lens” from schema therapy: prioritising others’ needs over your own due to childhood patterns (being the responsible child, the “good” undemanding child, or modelling a self-sacrificing parent).

They describe how unmet core emotional needs at work or home (secure attachment, expressing needs, boundaries, play, autonomy/competence) can activate this lens, triggering guilt, anxiety, and resentment, and leading to burnout through coping styles “SOS”: submit (over-accommodate), opt out (detach/scroll/substances/avoid), or storm in (become demanding/controlling). They suggest practical interventions via noticing and RESET: pausing before agreeing, tolerating guilt, doing a resentment audit, practising saying no and accepting help, and recognising when toxic systems may require escalation or leaving.

Next episodes cover the defectiveness and unrelenting standards lenses.


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Tanya & Lisa

Dr Tanya Petersen and Dr Lisa Corbett met at university at 18, living next door to each other in halls. Nearly thirty years later, they're still friends, and for the past seven years they've been colleagues too.

Tanya is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist (DClinPsy), HCPC-registered, and an ISST Advanced Accredited Schema Therapist and Supervisor. She qualified in 2008, worked for years in NHS forensic services, and first encountered schema therapy in 2004 — which, in her words, felt like coming home.

Lisa is an HCPC-registered Counselling Psychologist (PsychD). She took the scenic route into psychology, via corporate work and volunteering with children's charities in South Africa, and has since worked across NHS and private settings.

They founded 2 Together to make schema psychology accessible — through the free Unstuck podcast, self-guided courses, and one-to-one online therapy.

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