9. The Burnout Loop: Am I The Problem

Episode 9 — The Burnout Loop: Am I The Problem
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Burnout: Third episode of the burnout miniseries — the defectiveness and shame lens

Psychologists and friends Lisa and Tanya introduce Unstuck’s schema-therapy approach and continue their burnout series by exploring the “defectiveness/shame” lens behind the question “Am I the problem?” They discuss how overwhelm can be misread as a personal flaw (“I should be able to cope,” “I’m failing”) and share examples across parenting, work, caring for parents, and relationships, including Tanya’s struggles after a hysterectomy and panic attacks.

They explain how burnout activates shame and fear of exposure, driving coping responses (SOS): submitting (self-criticism, withdrawal from opportunities), opting out (hiding, avoidance, numbing), or storming (defensiveness, perfectionism, overworking), which reinforces a burnout loop. They propose the “lifeguard/healthy adult” perspective and the RESET steps, plus three practical actions: catch the verdict, check the load, and let someone in.

Next episode covers the unrelenting standards lens.


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Tanya & Lisa

Dr Tanya Petersen and Dr Lisa Corbett met at university at 18, living next door to each other in halls. Nearly thirty years later, they're still friends, and for the past seven years they've been colleagues too.

Tanya is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist (DClinPsy), HCPC-registered, and an ISST Advanced Accredited Schema Therapist and Supervisor. She qualified in 2008, worked for years in NHS forensic services, and first encountered schema therapy in 2004 — which, in her words, felt like coming home.

Lisa is an HCPC-registered Counselling Psychologist (PsychD). She took the scenic route into psychology, via corporate work and volunteering with children's charities in South Africa, and has since worked across NHS and private settings.

They founded 2 Together to make schema psychology accessible — through the free Unstuck podcast, self-guided courses, and one-to-one online therapy.

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