Episode 1 — Grey Matters

Episode 1 — Grey Matters
Tanya & Lisa - 2-Together

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Going Grey: Visibility, Ageing, and Choosing for Yourself | Unstuck

Two psychologist best friends open their podcast, Unstuck, by discussing one host’s recent decision to stop dyeing her hair and go grey at 48, and how it has become emotionally loaded with questions of identity, visibility, and ageing. She describes mixed reactions—support from close friends and family, but also comments from men and strangers assuming she is much older, including being mistaken for her friend’s mother and being offered a seat.

They explore the cultural double standard in which grey hair can make men seem “distinguished” while women are judged less attractive or relevant, and frame the issue as a choice rather than a rule. They suggest noticing fear- or shame-based decisions, examining the inner critic versus societal expectations, and practising self-compassion by asking what you’d say to a loved one going through the same transition.

Tanya & Lisa

Dr Tanya Petersen and Dr Lisa Corbett met at university at 18, living next door to each other in halls. Nearly thirty years later, they're still friends, and for the past seven years they've been colleagues too.

Tanya is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist (DClinPsy), HCPC-registered, and an ISST Advanced Accredited Schema Therapist and Supervisor. She qualified in 2008, worked for years in NHS forensic services, and first encountered schema therapy in 2004 — which, in her words, felt like coming home.

Lisa is an HCPC-registered Counselling Psychologist (PsychD). She took the scenic route into psychology, via corporate work and volunteering with children's charities in South Africa, and has since worked across NHS and private settings.

They founded 2 Together to make schema psychology accessible — through the free Unstuck podcast, self-guided courses, and one-to-one online therapy.

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