Episode 0 — Introduction

Episode 0 — Introduction
Tanya & Lisa - 2-Together

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Why You Keep Repeating the Same Patterns (and How to Get Unstuck) | Two Psychologists Talk

Two psychologists, Lisa and Tanya, introduce a new weekly series exploring the psychology behind everyday struggles—like people-pleasing, saying yes when you mean no, and repeating relationship patterns—and sharing practical ways to understand yourself and break old habits. They explain they’re starting now after a painful year that motivated them to make something good from bad, and because midlife conversations with friends are shifting toward menopause, grief, changing jobs, and balancing everything.

Tanya describes burning out, leaving the NHS, and wanting to share psychology principles for free to give people a glimpse “behind the therapy door.” They discuss feeling stuck, facing difficult realities (including medical uncertainty), and the pressure on women to hold everything together, noting how autopilot coping styles can persist even when they no longer help.

Tanya & Lisa

Dr Tanya Petersen and Dr Lisa Corbett met at university at 18, living next door to each other in halls. Nearly thirty years later, they're still friends, and for the past seven years they've been colleagues too.

Tanya is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist (DClinPsy), HCPC-registered, and an ISST Advanced Accredited Schema Therapist and Supervisor. She qualified in 2008, worked for years in NHS forensic services, and first encountered schema therapy in 2004 — which, in her words, felt like coming home.

Lisa is an HCPC-registered Counselling Psychologist (PsychD). She took the scenic route into psychology, via corporate work and volunteering with children's charities in South Africa, and has since worked across NHS and private settings.

They founded 2 Together to make schema psychology accessible — through the free Unstuck podcast, self-guided courses, and one-to-one online therapy.

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